DAY ONE: MORNING (I) – Pippa

Pippa: Hi Magnes.  {MAGNES JACK: Hello Pippa]  I am intrigued by this notion of having fun changing, because I’ll tell you for why.  All my life I have struggled like hell to move forward.  Changing myself has been like running through treacle, and that was when it was working!  [Laughing]  And yet despite all of this, and the many changes I have made, I still feel, in my heart of hearts, that something isn’t shifting at all.  It’s like a solid thunk, just there.  And I would truly love to make some inroads into that.  Can you help at all?

MAGNES JACK: Well, Pippa, I can certainly give you some pointers, but you must have all the fun doing the work.  [Smiles]  Deal?

Pippa: Deal!

MAGNES JACK: Ok.  It’s like this: none of really wants to change.  Not really.  I mean, sure, we’ll do some window dressing, we’ll climb Everest and be the top salesperson in our company, and then we sit on the toilet one day and realise that we haven’t really moved at all.

So what do we do?  Well, this “solid thunk” down there is one such expression of ourselves that would really rather not change, thank you very much.

And what we do is with the utmost respect, we work with that expression and include it, we welcome it, metaphorically, and we put our arms around it.

You see there are many different technologies today that would like to blast this “solid thunk” away, reduce it, chop it up and basically do away with it.  This is only so much disrespect.

What you are calling a “solid thunk” is an important expression of who you are and the mere fact that it is within your awareness means that it is there to be worked with and transmuted into something good and useful.  Because nothing is good or bad per se, just more or less useful with respect to some purpose.

Pippa: So how do I work with it?

MAGNES JACK: You get to know it.  There is knowledge in there you see.  Knowledge, which at the moment, is condensed.  And your job is to pour some “water” on it, to soften it and let it reveal itself.  Sometimes it will do so in words, or sounds, sometimes in images, but more often in feelings that you won’t be able to put words to, and neither should you try.   You will just know.  That is enough.

Pippa:   Do I sit with it then?

MAGNES JACK: Yes, just find some quiet time and sit and be with it, maybe for 10, 15, 20 minutes.  Go with what feels right.  The main point is to include it within your experience.  Bring it in.  At the moment, it may be feeling that it is somewhat excluded.  Perhaps, thus far, your relationship with it has been one of un-friendly cousin.  [Smiling]  And now, it can be like a re-union, a getting to know each other, a welcoming back into the family if you will.

Spend some time with that and let me know how you get on.

Pippa: Ok, thank you I will.

MAGNES JACK: It’s a pleasure.